Sunday, March 29, 2009

First Impressions of The Mets New Stadium, Citi Field



Before I break down what I saw today, I must first thank all of the Mets fans for checking out the live stream and commenting both here, and on Metsblog.com. Yankees fans and Mets fans have many differences, but share one thing - a love for baseball.

The Citi Field surroundings were highly stimulating, but as a Yankee fan, I spent much of the day experiencing the sinking feeling that the new Yankee Stadium can't possibly top the new ballpark in Flushing. Right now, I can't make that call, but I can relay my first impressions of the Mets' new home.

The Good
  • The Stadium feels huge while walking around the concourses, but tiny when you are in the seats. There can't be a better compliment for a baseball stadium. The intimacy in most seats is amazing.
  • Speaking of the concourses, it seems like a simple addition, but the wider concourses really change the entire stadium experience. Walking from one place to another is no longer a chore - it is something to look forward to.
  • There are long counters behind most seating areas which are an ingenious addition to a baseball stadium. It is now entirely possible to go to the concession stand, plop your food down on one of the standing room only "counters" and enjoy the great view. These counters are on every level of the stadium and spread throughout the stadium. If you have crappy seats, you can likely float over to one of those spots and get a much better view. You also never have to eat food on your lap if you don't want to.
  • The Caesars Club, on the terribly named "Excelsior" level is one of the highlights of the Stadium. It can best be described as an extra-cushy airport terminal in the middle of a baseball stadium. That may not sound great, but there is ample and comfortable seating, concessions everywhere, and a generally fun atmosphere. There are no views of the field, but it is a great place to kill time, meet friends, warm up, cool down, or otherwise hang out. It really changes the ballpark experience.
  • There is also a smaller version of the Ceasars Club on the Promenade level, right behind home plate. Once again, it offers a climate-controlled reprieve from the elements without demanding a membership fee. It felt very upscale, but still approachable for the average Joe. It also offers partial views of the field. I'll give the Mets a pass for the massive leak in this area that needed a large garbage can under it. I'm not sure how they never caught that leak during construction, but they will likely patch it up before opening day.
  • The "Pepsi Porch" was my favorite spot in the new stadium. The view from section 303, Row 1 is great. If you are snagging Mets tickets on Stubhub, I highly recommend choosing seats in that vicinity.
  • $5 beers. They inexplicably weren't available today, but they are on many of the menus on the field level. Beer prices are as follows as far as I could tell: $5 (12 oz.) and $6.25 (16 oz.) draft beers (Bud and Bud Light). There are also $7.50 cans of Bud (16 oz.) and $7.50 Brooklyn Brewery on draft (16 oz.).
The Not So Good
  • Getting from section 334 to section 335 in the stadium is a big pain. You have to walk up to the upper deck on a ramp, and then back down a flight of stairs to section 335. The Acela Club stands in the way, and only special people are allowed through there. Membership has its privileges.
  • The ramp up to the "Pepsi Porch" has drainage issues. There was some heavy rain overnight, but by 1 PM, there should not still have been a massive puddle taking up the entire walkway. The drainage system on that ramp was an epic fail and will need to be fixed quickly.
  • Speaking of the drainage, it seemed like an issue all around the stadium. The bathroom stalls had a gross mixture of water, urine, dirt and a bunch of other stuff that pooled up below the toilet. Along those lines, the new waterless urinals are a strange experience and smell weird. The bathrooms creeped me out as much as any other stadium bathrooms, and they were brand new.
  • The concession workers were absolutely clueless about everything. Most of them were friendly, but they didn't know how to use the registers, had absolutely no information about food offerings and generally represented a minimum wage workforce. This is probably something that will be fixed with time, when friendliness will be exchanged for competence. The one bonus here was the newbie concession worker who gave me a $6.25 beer for $5. Cha-ching!
  • The food offerings are very repetitive and typical throughout much of the stadium. Items like hot dogs, sausages, ice cream and beer are everywhere. The good news is that you should not have to wait long for those items, but it also means you will have to walk further for some variety. The non-typical stadium food is reserved for the Shake Shack/Blue Smoke area (see "The Ugly" section below) beyond the center field scoreboard.
  • Speaking of that area, views beyond center and right field of the 126th street area in Corona/Flushing is horrendous. Granted, Safeco in Seattle has crappy rail yards and Citizens Bank Park in Philly is just a bunch of parking lots, but the slummy garages are a real eyesore:

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    At least now I know where to go when I need a muffler. How long until those garages are bought by fast food restaurants and sports bars?
The Ugly
  • The view from at least a couple of seats in the Promenade are terrible. I won't speak for all of the seats, but you can see in my video that my ticketed seat was an obstructed view. I wouldn't pay more than $5 for that seat. Perhaps I had some bad karma left over from uncovering all of the obstructed views back in February.
  • The lines at Shake Shack were ridiculous, and they were only offering an EXTREMELY limited menu (only the single shack burger, no shakes, etc). I can only imagine what the lines will be like when they have their full menu. Expect to spend 30 minutes on line for Shake Shack and 15-20 minutes for Blue Smoke.
For a more in depth look at my Citi Field experience, be sure to check out all of my videos on my Qik.com page. The video quality was grainy, but I was shocked at how well my HTC Touch Pro picked up my voice for narration. The battery on my HTC Touch Pro shockingly outperformed my expectations. I was on twitter, on the phone, and obviously taking and uploading live streaming video, and it lasted until I was on the subway ride home. However, if I plan to do this sort of thing every time I go to the ballpark, I will need to purchase an extended battery.

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The seats in left field under the out of town scoreboard were terrible too. If I stood up, it blocked home plate.
1 reply · active 835 weeks ago
I wonder why they didn't put that scoreboard in the left field wall?
I was at this game as well, and as I posted in the comments section of another post, I was fortunate enough to have access to the Acela club and one of the suites on the Empire level. Too bad I will never sniff either of those locations at an MLB game. All I can say is that as a Yankees fan, I think that George and the boys better have done their homework, because this place is fantastic. I did notice some of the problems that Ross mentioned, but the positives far outweighed the negatives. The only thing that I think Ross may have missed is that although the concourses are wider, on the main level, things still did feel a little crowded. But overall, wow Met fans, you are really going to enjoy this place. Oh, one other thing, not that it really bothered me, but why did the Mets choose to make the outfield wall black? It would seem to me that royal blue would have been a much better choice. Ooops, one more thing. With very little foul territory behind home plate, and a brick wall back ther, look for some crazy plays on wild pitches. The same can probably be said for the trapezoid area in right field.

Thumbs up for Citi Field!
1. New York's state motto, Excelsior, is a much better name for a level than I'm sure many other choices.
2. The original Shake Shack, in Madison Square Park, is notorious for having really long lines. In fact there's a Twitter account (@shakeshack) that's dedicated to how long the line currently is. Can you at least watch the game while waiting on line?
3. There has been talk about redevelopment of that area with body shops and all. Here's a blog I found about it. http://developwilletspoint.com/

We all know that the Mets needed a new home way more than the Yankees. But I'm a Yankee fan and curious and psyched to see what we're getting!
1 reply · active 835 weeks ago
Sadly, one of the view places you can't see the game is from the shake shack line which is bizzare to me.
What no love for the person who got you tickets ross? ahhh just kiddin...I think mtrico hit he nail on the head. There are some things that could have been fine tuned but nothing is ever perfect and not everyone is always happy. As a Met fan I am thrilled with the new stadium. I did notice the crowding on the concourse but I think that is something that was more due to the fact that people really wanted to explore the place as opposed to sitting in the seats. Once the new feeling sets in and everyone has seen all the amenities things will become a little less crowded. I am interested in seeing the New YS at some point.

Oh and the junk yards are horrible. Hopefully the imminent domain stuff happens and the city could turn that into a nice area with bars, stores and hotels. Went to Fenway last season and it is great to walk out of the ballpark and be able to get some beers and hang out right there. It will be some time before it happens but when it does it should make the experience that much better.
10 replies · active 805 weeks ago
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Chris David · 835 weeks ago

"Hopefully the imminent domain stuff happens and the city could turn that into a nice area with bars, stores and hotels."
Are you a fucking communist! Let the free market dictate that! The last thing we need is another bribed city official giving a sweetheart deal to the business of his liking.
LOL! Comment of the day.

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The city has already said they would move the businesses elsewhere. That area is in major need of repair work. In addition look at what the Camden Yards area did for Baltimore. It made it a tourist attraction. This would make Queens/Flushing more of a touristy place which would bring jobs and a lot of money to an area that desperately needs it. Imminent domain in this case is for the good of the area. Those other stores will find new homes.

Not sure if you are a Met fan or not but when you go around that area of flushing it is kind of scary. Met fans have to cross a freaking Highway to get to a serviceable bar to enjoy after the game. The iron triangle is an absolute nightmare.
That area is a dump. For all we know a liquor license could not be had for the area without bribing a city official. Its all about corruption and greed. Does emminent domain to build a Walmart help people?
What does a liquor license and Wal-Mart have anything to do with this?
Read between the lines. Do you agree with everything Fox New spoon feeds you?
GET SOME FACTS THEN COME BACK TO ME..ok now that the jim calhoun is out of me.

Nice of you to try and assume I am a Republican without you know, actually knowing anything about me aside from my view on 1 issue. I will assume you are a hardcore liberal as you come out with accusatory tone when you think I am conservative which is the furthest from the truth. Maybe my view on this issue is conservative but that is about all of me that is.

On to the rest of your ridiculous response. You want me to read between the lines? You mean like you did and assumed I was a republican? That worked well now didn't it?

Wal-Mart has nothing to do with the Flushing Triangle. The fact that you think every government entity is corrupt has nothing to do with bars getting liquor licenses. It just proves that you are a conspiracy theorist at heart and use it to get on a soap-box.

The main issue is the environmental impact that the Iron Triangle has on the area. There is currently no sewage system in the area. Oil and other auto fluids pretty much cover the streets. Flooding is an every rainy day occurrence
I always thought that Chris' POV was the conservative view and BPALM'S was
liberal. Lets take the politics to some other blog. Thanks!

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Thanks for the info. I know next to nothing about the area. I just thought you were daft. I hear eminent domain with little other info and red flags go up.

New Stadium Insider Guy: Your blog rocks.
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Rudolph Hoess · 805 weeks ago

Ditto... Just like the 3rd Reich marched in and started kicking jews out of their houses so the new capital could be built!
Thanks for all the info Ross. I followed your blog the whole day, very cool with the live streams and all. Now I wanna go check out CITI.
The stadium sounds nice. I think it looks great and could edge out YS for best new digs. I'm going to buy some tickets right now so I can find out.
I am wondering if, like the rest of the stadium, the Mets will be installing some flat screen around the Shake Shack area. Nearly every concession has a screen above it to follow along with the game. I wonder if with the other little touches that are needed this may be one of them.
There is SO much seeped-in motor oil underneath the ground beyond Shea where the Auto shops are.

The reason the upheaval of that area never gets beyond the thinking stage is that the Environmental Control Board would have a field day with the permits. And the City and the Mets know it.
thanks for posting all the videos from the first game at citi. i will be attending a few games in july and want to know what the views from different sections of the ballpark will be. ive already got tickets to one of the games ill be at and ill actually be sitting in section 524 row 12, so your obstructed view seat in section 523 gave me a good idea what to expect. after seeing your videos ill definately be purchasing some seats in the left field seats as well. i agree the view from those seats looks incredible.
Here is some more about that eminent domain stuff around Citi Field:

http://www.ny1.com/content/top_stories/96485/area...

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